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Title: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: OZER on Dec 20, 2021, 12:56 AM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17644/production/_122221859_35e5c380-cb81-4d52-9eff-8667e4f9dc0c.jpg)
He is a smiley, glass-half-full kind of guy - naturally positive and full of energy.

He's smart, too, and works in an Indian tech company.

He's the least likely person, you'd think, to fall victim to an online scam.

Yet in October he was defrauded out of his life's savings - $4,000 (£3,000).

He couldn't believe it.

"I was so stressed. I was just lost. I told my wife and she said, 'I thought you were intelligent. How did you lose so much money?'"

He messaged me in late October out of the blue, telling me what had happened.

He wasn't just telling me about the deception, though. He was warning me.

Because central to the scam was a distorted version of my reporting.

Earlier this year I was given access to a Bitcoin mine in New York state. I made a report about it - focused on how mining Bitcoin produces carbon emissions.

However, that is not the report that Chiranjeevi saw.

On 18 October he joined a Telegram channel called B2C Mining.

Telegram is an encrypted messaging service, like WhatsApp, but with "channels", which can feel more like a Facebook group.

The B2C Mining channel claimed to be part of a company that owned and operated a Bitcoin mine in Russia.

At the top of the group, pinned to the channel, was my report... only it wasn't quite my report.

It had been altered, cutting out anything to do with climate change, and suggesting that the mine I had reported on was in fact the channel's.

"I thought it was very genuine," Chiranjeevi says. "That is what allured me".

"I thought that you had visited the mining company," he told me. "I've been seeing the BBC since I was a kid, and it has a reputation all over the world."

There were other videos, too - of happy customers who had made money. People had also posted the gains they had made.

Chiranjeevi was intrigued.

The company claimed to mine crypto-currencies by request - with amazing profits.

"They said they would mine them for 24 hours, and they could make you around 20-to-40%, depending on the type of crypto-coin," Chiranjeevi said.

The group had nearly 3,000 members. Surely so many people couldn't be wrong? He decided to give it a whirl.

He began speaking to the channel admin privately - someone who claimed to be the chief executive of B2C Mining - Vadmir Peavsky.

Vadmir Peavsky is not a real person, but we'll get on to that.

Peavsky told Chiranjeevi that if he were to send him over $160 they would mine a type of crypto-currency for 24 hours.

Twenty-four hours later, his investment was returned with interest. Chiranjeevi had made about $40. He couldn't believe how simple it was.

"It was easy money," he says.

Chiranjeevi lives in a flat. He's comfortable enough. However, he has bigger dreams. He wants to live in a house, and he wants to put his children through university.

Those dreams suddenly seemed attainable. He now had a side hustle, a second income, almost, investing in crypto-mining.

He decided to raise the stakes.

This time he decided to give Peavsky $250 in a crypto-currency called Tron. In five days he was hoping for some hefty returns.

However, as the mining started, Peavsky began to message with bad news. The mining had run into problems. Peavsky needed more money to fix them.

And if Chiranjeevi didn't pay, he might lose his investment.

"I fell into his trap" he says.

It wasn't the last request. The problems kept coming. More money was needed to keep the mining going, to save his initial investment. There's a point in the exchange where you think Chiranjeevi has worked it out...


But he was in too far. He'd run through his entire savings and was now borrowing money from his family. But even then, he made one last payment, hoping, praying, it was real.

It wasn't.

"The fallacy of sunk costs, time pressure, good cop/bad cop... It's a classic scam," says Jessica Barker, author of Confident Cyber Security.

Barker says Telegram's end-to-end encryption, combined with a growth in users, has attracted more and more scammers to the platform.

As part of my research into the group I found another man who had been deceived. It took a bit of time for him to speak to me, and he did so on condition of anonymity.

The student, who is 19 and also from India, told me he lost his and his family's savings.

He wanted to mine at a lower scale, initially with $15.

Peavsky began to pressure him to invest more. "Can't you borrow money from family and friends?" he said.

Eventually the student did. He promised the people he loved he could give them big returns in exchange for their rupees.

But to his horror, the "just one more" payment requests started coming. If he didn't pay within a certain time frame, his entire investment was to be forfeited.

He borrowed more money, eventually giving Peavsky $400 - a huge amount to him.

The student began to realise that it was a scam. Terrified, he began to beg Peavsky to give him his money back.

Finally, Peavsky asked him, as if it were a ransom video, to upload a clip of him saying how pleased he was with the service.

It helps to explain why there were so many positive videos on the group channel: some had been made under duress.

The student told me he felt suicidal after that final exchange.

I had many questions about the scam, but the most obvious was: who is Vadmir Peavsky?

I first started with the company that Mr Peavsky claimed to run - B2C Mining. This is a real company, based in Almaty, Kazakhstan. But it's not run by Vadmir Peavksy.

The company builds Bitcoin mines for clients, and repairs machinery. Some of their pictures and branding had been used on the Telegram channel.

"We don't have any Telegram channels and we don't sell any crypto-currency," Vladimir Ligai, who works at the company, told me.

The scammers used this picture, taken from social media, claiming it was part of their mine. They also used the B2C logo and name.

full article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59659881 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59659881)
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: ontine on Dec 20, 2021, 01:06 AM
after graduation, I learned something from I can't forget,  people don't want to fix problems so to take advantage of it. inflation cant be stopped because people up there makes use of it.  low interest rates has little to do with growth, it only grows the financial markets. growth is about the people providing innovation or output.
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Post by: laborious on Dec 20, 2021, 01:07 AM
Bryan Brooks on point
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Post by: captainvenom11 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:12 AM
Oil stocks aren't overpriced imo, still relatively low. But will probably also go down if a substantial correction occurs.
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Post by: elfnexx on Dec 20, 2021, 01:13 AM
One thing is clear, California politicians are a mess and embarrassment.
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Post by: terfel on Dec 20, 2021, 01:18 AM
Turkey the best example of not increasing interest rates :-)
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: titanickid47 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:19 AM
STOCKS and Bonds were created to make the elite wealthy.. Not some thing that is, or ever was, a NECESSITY.  It's sadly, just like playing the LOTTO.  But people continue to do it, even post-Pandemic.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: instigation on Dec 20, 2021, 01:24 AM
Lumber went down because of limited processing. Klausner One in Live Oak, Florida shutdown end of 2018 due to business problems and the mill was being sold at tax auction. Binderholz runs the mill now and started production back in the spring of 2021 which is why the prices have gone down. This facility produces a million board feet annually.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: frivolity on Dec 20, 2021, 01:25 AM
POWELLLL GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!.....
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: zazer101 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:29 AM
Yes, get rid of all democrats and socialists
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Xenos on Dec 20, 2021, 01:30 AM
This inflation is transitory, print money obviously have no consequences, pffffff. the central command economy of the Soviet Union (united states) work vary well, let the government produce chips, or infrastructure.  system appear to be a viable economic alternative, dont worry, everything wanna be ok
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Pilot on Dec 20, 2021, 01:35 AM
 PAIN GIVES A LESSON & EVERY LESSON CHANGES A PERSON.!!!*️️️
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Post by: The_URRU_ on Dec 20, 2021, 01:37 AM
Dollar is the biggest of all
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: mischam1216 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:41 AM
Homes will never crash
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: briancoyle on Dec 20, 2021, 01:43 AM
The bond market
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: The_Hardcore18 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:47 AM
*The crypto market has been favourable in the past weeks, I keep missing out on this opportunity, I'm most certainly very impatient how can I ever make a profit in the crypto market*
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: AdamRules2000 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:49 AM
0:18 lol.... 59%  Come in India
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: ninth on Dec 20, 2021, 01:53 AM
When you give steel and lumber prices can you give units with those too.
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Post by: beverlybevers on Dec 20, 2021, 01:55 AM
thumbs down
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Firephax on Dec 20, 2021, 01:59 AM
ah yes another possible major financial crissis,what a time to be alive
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: pronghorn on Dec 20, 2021, 02:01 AM
When you give steel and lumber prices can you give units with those too.
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Post by: Ewaar on Dec 20, 2021, 02:05 AM
Transitory
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: cg1245 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:07 AM
Wow investment with ️is cool my blockchain wallet was just sent 10k worth of bitcoin so Awesome
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: nelda on Dec 20, 2021, 02:11 AM
could not buy ethbear today at ftx, why is that i wonder?
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: anglice on Dec 20, 2021, 02:13 AM
The Fed doesn't need to be reformed... it needs to be abolished and the dollar needs to return to gold and silver, as described in the Constitution.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: tbilisi on Dec 20, 2021, 02:16 AM
No because represent paid more easily your own.
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Post by: drunken_donuts on Dec 20, 2021, 02:19 AM
Refugees Token is the next 100x
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: vchan314 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:22 AM
%3 interest rate will bankrupt the US. It's simply not possible to raise it that high which means if inflation ever manages to slip and expectations enter a loop, there will be absolutely no way to tame it back. The US has to start paying back the debts for which it needs to let go of the strong dollar insistance that creates almost a trillion dollar deficit every year.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: smeag on Dec 20, 2021, 02:24 AM
When the big gamblers on the Wall Street sucking tax blood money from Fed are stopped. When unregulated shadow banks like BlackRock are in incharge of both Fed and stock markets  - bubbles will keep blowing.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Ataraz on Dec 20, 2021, 02:28 AM
Well sounds like most of them have no clue what they are talking about.
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Post by: NickInvalido on Dec 20, 2021, 02:30 AM
more to the point can the criminal banks be stopped
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Post by: MegaErn123 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:34 AM
The bubble is transitory
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Post by: ashmead on Dec 20, 2021, 02:36 AM
What are the benefits of media exaggerating things like potential inflation and turning into an unsolvable crisis?  Do you miss all the drama that Trump could give you on a daily basis for news?  Back off using words like crisis until it is one.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: jamhead999 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:40 AM
Whyyy are people comparing gas prices from LAST year during a time hardly any one was driving...compare to 2019
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Post by: colin1389 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:42 AM
Everything
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Post by: Rinorancheros on Dec 20, 2021, 02:46 AM
Well, once you've printed the money, no, you can't stop inflation. Prices have to rise to adjust to the new amount of money in circulation. But it could have been not caused in the first place by not printing trillions of dollars. And while you can't stop the inflation that's going to hit on account of the money already printed, you can stop yet more inflation but not printing yet more money.Of course the powers that be will claim they are going to somehow fiat and decree inflation into submission, yet keep printing like crazy, then be baffled and surprised how and why inflation keeps going even though they issued fiat and decree saying no more inflation. Why won't the economy just obey our fiat and decree? We _said_ no more inflation, why won't it just stop? And oh, since it won't stop, we'll just say that actually what we want and should have!
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: alabamaboynaw on Dec 20, 2021, 02:48 AM
@Ms. Garcia - @4:30:45 into the YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDED ASIANS IN QUESTIONS.  ASIANS ARE PART OF THE MINORITY GROUP, IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN.  IM ALWAYS SICK AND TIRED WHEN PEOPLE FORGET TO INCLUDE ASIANS WHENEVER TALKING ABOUT MINORITY ISSUES.  MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOT ALL ASAINS ARE WEALTHY.  THERE QUITE A FEW ASAINS WHO ARE INDEED POOR.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: mil on Dec 20, 2021, 02:52 AM
Brian Brooks must be protected at any fee
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Post by: WolfgangEarl on Dec 20, 2021, 02:54 AM
gamestop wasn't a bubble, if it was a bubble, it wouldn't stabilize at still 1000% over what it was originally at after one year
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: palette on Dec 20, 2021, 02:58 AM
Democrats gonna tax the crap outta crypto.
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Post by: caskey on Dec 20, 2021, 03:00 AM
Good to see discussion of Financial inclusion.    Unfortunately, this group reflects an industry that excludes the Black and Brown community as companies, investors, or other participation.  The lack of access to capital and the exclusion that exists in banking needs to be addressed in Digital assets to solve this issue.
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Post by: lupitalupo on Dec 20, 2021, 03:03 AM
"Pop goes the whistle"
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Post by: sherrie on Dec 20, 2021, 03:06 AM
The us economy is dead, these people should be ashamed of themselves for doing this to the country. They just keep printing money, more inflation is on its way.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: legoman13579 on Dec 20, 2021, 03:09 AM
Yes inflation can be stopped at anytime but biden''s just busy his his covid game. In all his political life, he rarely or didn't talk about his economy viewpoints but criticized only. He got elected because people wanted to get rid of trump's racism in the WH.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Endorphins on Dec 20, 2021, 03:12 AM
GameStop is not a meme stock. You lost, deal with it
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Post by: danteELITE on Dec 20, 2021, 03:15 AM
LOL when I hear the 2 % preferred rule... Have they ever done a good job of keeping that the average rate.. LOL! I think the average rate has been more closer to like 3 or 4% over the last 40 years, let me know if Im wrong. I like learning more than I like being right by a lot.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: HolySqueak on Dec 20, 2021, 03:17 AM
The  is a bit misleading...  1. They were looking at price change rather than volatility (ie. Variances in price change over time). Whenever there are more participants in a market exchange, prices will fluctuates.  It just means more capital shifted into the market.  2. Cryptocurrency, Tesla, GME and AMC, etc had something much more... it was a way for the little guys (ie. Retail investors) to give the middle finger to the institutional investors and big banks. And it worked. Lol. It was about democractic shift even worrying the Governments...  3. Every new asset class in the  are from emerging markets.  Tesla is leading the EV industry. Bitcoin is leading the Crypto industry. Low fee stock ownership are leading the way for retail investors...
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Post by: milsom08 on Dec 20, 2021, 03:21 AM
Out of all the crypto currencies out there, Stellar XLM was chosen. Pay attention, they will play a huge part in the future of finance in not only the US but globally!
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: disjointed on Dec 20, 2021, 03:23 AM
 current topics are blockchain, artificial intelligence or quantum computer, we have people who lead us and who hardly use a webcam or a common microphone. the future looks good. by the way, let's take a look at the dialogue that all the participants in the meeting had and this Sherman, oh God, the least informed but the worst attitude.
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Post by: Warwick50 on Dec 20, 2021, 03:27 AM
if the mask is below the nose .. it does nothing,,
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Post by: SebyTim on Dec 20, 2021, 03:29 AM
Shocks are all about future I think. If you wait until the company is earning a fair amount of moeny or mature, there won't be a fair price either. So some companies that is not earning very much now or even with minus earning could seem very expensive. But that doesn't mean it's in a bubble.  You take your bet or prediction about company's furture and you earn or loss. Not some value finding which is nearly impossible i think because i think the market is kind of effictive so why should you find something that is highly undervalued?
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: pip855 on Dec 20, 2021, 03:33 AM
2:41:05
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Post by: AVillacrez on Dec 20, 2021, 03:35 AM
Inflation is the keystone of your system. If you promise not to invade our country, we'll switch to gold
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Post by: digitalmez on Dec 20, 2021, 03:39 AM
EV's, Biotech Spacs, cryptos and anything Meta is probably in a bubble territory. It'd be interesting to see another speculation driven bubble pop like the .dom bubble. The internet is still around but not how people speculated it to be in the late 90's and got burnt.
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Post by: Silenteer on Dec 20, 2021, 03:41 AM
Also, i cant wait until congress finds out that if you type the wrong address when transferring wallets, you lose all your money. Lol. Clearly will be forced to be fixed.
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Post by: rcd on Dec 20, 2021, 03:45 AM
At least we dont have a racist Russian kgb spy in the White House am I right?
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Post by: Nettikivoy on Dec 20, 2021, 03:47 AM
Stop printing money like crazy
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Post by: Im_Indominus on Dec 20, 2021, 03:51 AM
Houses have double in price in two years practically. Thats hyper-inflation. Plus how is housing only 31% of CPI when it accounts for more than half our paycheck.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: JayJay014 on Dec 20, 2021, 03:53 AM
That what happens when you print 2 trillion $ out of thin air.
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Post by: Jniggs on Dec 20, 2021, 03:57 AM
Bitcoin isnt a bubble but an emerging market. Do you want internet to continue do you want digital Centralised finance from Government or do you want the Peoples Decentralised money wealth BITCOIN!!! THE Peoples wealth
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Post by: sawyersworld on Dec 20, 2021, 03:59 AM
Ms Dixon representing a copy and paste crypto . She talks like her company is pure genius.
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Post by: sirta1k9371 on Dec 20, 2021, 04:02 AM
0:18 lol.... 59%  Come in India
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Post by: cinammoncroc000 on Dec 20, 2021, 04:05 AM
No, no they cant
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Post by: XxElite97xX on Dec 20, 2021, 04:08 AM
THE TRAIN CANNOT BE STOPPED. you can throw band aids at cancer patients it doesn't do anything.  Get ready for the reset.
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Post by: ColossalCraft on Dec 20, 2021, 04:10 AM
Short answer - No
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Post by: Z_l_kelly on Dec 20, 2021, 04:14 AM
my god would you even explain how the short squeezes came to be and more importantly WHY it was possible you greedy bunch - you guys are media terrorists this is not information
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Post by: pearltiger46 on Dec 20, 2021, 04:16 AM
Gas prices are not inflation related
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Post by: mc4tablets on Dec 20, 2021, 04:20 AM
Fix the rules at the ports. Get military personnel trained to drive trucks to the ports.
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Post by: paddy on Dec 20, 2021, 04:22 AM
We can start by hanging Central Banksters for Treason...then most of Congress for allowing it...
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Post by: kianworld on Dec 20, 2021, 04:26 AM
Jay Powell and the Fed should be rocketed to Mars. They pushed for all the monetary and fiscal stimulus, and now just can't fathom "how" we got this massive inflation. F-ing morons wanted to inflate away  the US debt....
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Post by: spartanobe on Dec 20, 2021, 04:28 AM
They can't stop it, so yall better get this right
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Post by: BarrelBoss on Dec 20, 2021, 04:32 AM
Yes. In America, yes.
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Post by: gerrigerrie on Dec 20, 2021, 04:34 AM
The fiat Currency debt TRAP
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Post by: Trix on Dec 20, 2021, 04:38 AM
Yes it can.  Re-Elect Donald J Trump
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Post by: mergen on Dec 20, 2021, 04:40 AM
Buying power has fallen for any 2 year period since 1968.  So this news is >50 years to late.  We are now in the same cycle of all unlimited governments swapping between Fascism, Communism, and Fundamentalism.  The only solution now is Exodus and leave the Nazi planet behind.
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Post by: y76shai on Dec 20, 2021, 04:44 AM
Ask the 1500 new billionaires created during COVID to return the stolen currency?
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Post by: superior on Dec 20, 2021, 04:46 AM
Why are the two CA dems so crypto skeptical?
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Post by: ryguy21 on Dec 20, 2021, 04:50 AM
No one asked the most important question during this hearing.  Who is that blonde in the black outfit sitting behind Mr. Brooks?
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Post by: mouflon on Dec 20, 2021, 04:52 AM
It's ridiculous and I think it was planned. I was looking at used cars the other day online and saw a 1999 Ford Explorer for 7,000 dollars. I nearly choked from laughing . Sure it had low miles but it's still a  22 year old vehicle they want 7 thousand dollars for. No new gadgets added , nothing. They've lost their minds.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: fogdog on Dec 20, 2021, 04:56 AM
Im not saying crypto doesnt Experience inflation but unlike other fiat backed assets inflation doesnt harm crypto. Not only this but also the fact that fiat in general is crashing even though crypto will see corrections I really dont think crypto is in a bubble as many people think it is due to the fact that it turns fiat currency into x10 return or more not only this but aswell as crypto has its own power its own entity no body controls other than members of that blockchain or crypto holdings.
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Post by: commingle on Dec 20, 2021, 04:57 AM
The only stop inflation!. We needed to impeach all the Democrats..
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Post by: kersey on Dec 20, 2021, 05:01 AM
Glad people are starting to agree with Austrian economist
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Post by: Mrbuddha on Dec 20, 2021, 05:03 AM
The Fed doesn't need to be reformed... it needs to be abolished and the dollar needs to return to gold and silver, as described in the Constitution.
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Post by: zethprototype1 on Dec 20, 2021, 05:07 AM
Ontario is the next bubble
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Post by: tamqrah on Dec 20, 2021, 05:09 AM
One word. ChyNA
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Post by: Zensiert on Dec 20, 2021, 05:13 AM
watch?v=q8VIBSZEGmI&t=4s&ab_channel=CryptoMoonlightcom
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Post by: bill_shields on Dec 20, 2021, 05:15 AM
"THIS HIGH INFLATION AT 6.8% IS A SELF-INFLICTED CRISIS CAUSED BY AN INCOMPETENT JOE BIDEN, WHILE PRESIDENT TRUMP ALONG WITH PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS ENJOYED A INFLATION AVERAGE OF 1.2% OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 40 YEARS"
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Post by: crud41 on Dec 20, 2021, 05:19 AM
The biggest problem I see ,most of us have relied on the good old government.Just what they want. Slavespeople growing their own food are way ahead of the curve. What do we expect..wa wa wa
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Post by: evrrj on Dec 20, 2021, 05:21 AM
Oil prices are up because of high demand and low supply (under Trump many US drilling sites shutdown) Higher oil prices are pushing prices in any every sectors.
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: papotto on Dec 20, 2021, 05:25 AM
Crypto keeps fluctuating, causing a lot of loss, What's the best way to make money from crypto trading?
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Post by: ambary on Dec 20, 2021, 05:27 AM
If you are spending 40% - 50% of your income on housing, you're screwed.
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Post by: jetpropelled on Dec 20, 2021, 05:31 AM
Lets get some reasonable regulation ASAP!!!
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Post by: Wafloon on Dec 20, 2021, 05:33 AM
If you have any savings they should be in a deflationary asset like etherium that also has amazing growth and utility and a blindingly bright future outlook.
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Post by: Cloner554 on Dec 20, 2021, 05:37 AM
Great Vid!
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Post by: shayla on Dec 20, 2021, 05:39 AM
Bitcoin is sucking the wealth of America into its Vaccume like a boss.
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Post by: indyguy03 on Dec 20, 2021, 05:43 AM
Of course closing down our energy independence had nothing to do with this.
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Post by: Walla on Dec 20, 2021, 05:45 AM
Yes it can be stopped by printing more money
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Post by: louis99999 on Dec 20, 2021, 05:49 AM
One sided and biased coverage
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Post by: duologue on Dec 20, 2021, 05:50 AM
LETS GO BRANDON YOU SOB
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Post by: gerlach on Dec 20, 2021, 05:54 AM
Great plan, don't invest your money and hope the price would go down...   I'm going to buy some stocks, bit coin and Real Estate for now.
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Post by: StimBolta on Dec 20, 2021, 05:56 AM
Cathy Wood sez Value will be slammed in 2022  Over supply
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Post by: ROM5419 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:00 AM
We are all screwed for years to come no matter how much you own. We are all in debt for a long time. Expect your taxes and rents to stay up ⬆️ for years while average wage struggle to keep up. Way to go Powell!!! Poor get poorer and the gap between the rich and poor to widen and poverty to get worse This will be worse than 2008.. god bless us all
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Post by: dirty_mallace on Dec 20, 2021, 06:02 AM
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Post by: Alibali9 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:06 AM
Everyone knows that with 0 interest rates, the inflation cannot remain transitory. It twill keep going up.
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Post by: trinitywhite on Dec 20, 2021, 06:08 AM
Tesla is not in a bubble if you know the company deeply (30.5% gross margin is unheard of in auto industry).  was wrong and said overvalued when it was $17 and now in $1050.
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Post by: B1r1o1d1 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:12 AM
Lets not blame government printing money .
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Post by: Codingflux on Dec 20, 2021, 06:14 AM
Where was Satoshi?
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Post by: addypokeboy on Dec 20, 2021, 06:18 AM
This was one of the most fascinating congressional panels that I have seen! Learned alot about Crypto. And yet, some of the questions...
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Post by: yoakum on Dec 20, 2021, 06:20 AM
bingo at 11:00 minutes, hmm we need to strengthen the workforce in America, too much power to various companies and employers who export American job labor and now are anti-union. If the minimum wage had matched inflation from 1968 we would be looking at 2021 rate of $25 per hour to allow persons in America, to afford to save for homes, rent cheap, save for emergencies and generate wealth for all Americans but with the minimum at $7.25, we have a poverty wage and over 40%of the American workforce is living pay check to paycheck, millions fell into poverty in 2020 pandemic. The freakin child tax credit literally lifted some 20 million-plus children out of food insecurity.  Too many hedge funds and private equity firms driving up housing, rentals across America in all 50 states, and we are about to remove 455,000 truck drivers off the roads in less than 10 years with automated trucks, is one another example of millions of families being affected with job changes and the economic change of America in the 21st century.
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Post by: orthodoxy on Dec 20, 2021, 06:24 AM
Really interesting that every bodies talking about how this is creating value for everyone, but failing to mention that we lose much of the value of decentralization when we rely on the institutions represented here.
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Post by: oops on Dec 20, 2021, 06:26 AM
early gang
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Post by: hurensohn on Dec 20, 2021, 06:30 AM
Bidenflation.
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Post by: born2eatpoptarts on Dec 20, 2021, 06:32 AM
I believe that US gov. will not make this situation getting worse.
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Post by: pol on Dec 20, 2021, 06:36 AM
If you want maximum safety, regular dividends, and regular price gains, then buy the five largest Canadian banks. They are Royal Bank of Canada (RY), Toronto Dominion Bank (TD), Bank of Montreal (BMO), Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS), and CIBC Bank (CM). But don't take my word for it. Research the history of these bank stocks. Maybe in three or four years from now, you will be thanking me after your stock portfolio keeps going up. People will always require banking services.
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Post by: birdflu007 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:38 AM
I can't understand the mandate for the federal reserve is supposed to be stability when they are the ones to cause even more unstable events. They should only ever control the money supply based on the population and not by natural disasters and now we're seeing the product of that happening. People always seem to blame companies first for a lot of the issues at hand whenever we have a crisis arise but don't understand who were the ones to start it and continue to produce more of them. Interest rates should be at least a couple of percentage points higher because these low interest rates are providing an incentive to just borrow freely without any repercussions.   I can see why bitcoin was created to challenge the stupidity of the monetary system but again it's filled with corruption and flawed with the same issue with everyone trying to play mind games with the public to make it seem like it's a fair game. I truly think the best way to get a good money system in place that is based on merit and genuine work is by utilizing the blockchain concepts to monitor for fairness in all transactions instead of just making them public. Something that denies out weighted transactions and promotes balance and stability over the toxic growth mindset beyond everything mentality.
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Post by: phytobiology on Dec 20, 2021, 06:42 AM
The wealthy are buying stocks, gold, crypto, real estate, land... anything they can get their hands on. They are even trying to buy entire neighborhoods and cities.
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Post by: An_Person on Dec 20, 2021, 06:44 AM
Trump
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Post by: Hacksore on Dec 20, 2021, 06:48 AM
Why would they want to stop inflation when an explicit goal of the Fed is the continuous devaluation of the USD?
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Post by: aari03 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:49 AM
+Get rid of all these mandates, people can find work, and prices will go down.
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Post by: komimu on Dec 20, 2021, 06:54 AM
Crisis?
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Post by: diffract on Dec 20, 2021, 06:55 AM
I don't trust. That is why not doing transaction or holding usd
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Post by: carrington on Dec 20, 2021, 07:00 AM
Hyperinflation
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Post by: MCServerUK on Dec 20, 2021, 07:01 AM
stupid take, the oil price has dropped, it should hult it a little. we can take a page from athens, just produce too much oil
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Post by: farthing on Dec 20, 2021, 07:06 AM
80% of intelligent Americans are NEVER taking the poison vaxx!
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Post by: soccerlife0428 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:07 AM
Like an addict the government will spend us into crisis they cant stop.
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Post by: Druox on Dec 20, 2021, 07:12 AM
*5 SECOND ECONOMICS DEGREE* --->>>>  Government waste equals inflation.  _YOUR WELCOME_
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Post by: edie on Dec 20, 2021, 07:13 AM
DBA has so much in store and you don't want to miss out on huge opportunities. To the moon  #DBA
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Post by: provoke on Dec 20, 2021, 07:18 AM
IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS INVESTORS. Couldn't have been said any better. You just have to listen.
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Post by: askrobert1234 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:19 AM
Lower min wage.... that is one way.
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Post by: callison on Dec 20, 2021, 07:23 AM
Feds should have raised interest years ago....tapering off won't do a dam thing.
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Post by: Tuathal on Dec 20, 2021, 07:25 AM
The Fed not going to stop inflation as a matter of fact there trying to destroy there system and trying to give us a NEW SYSTEM aka The Great Reset aka Green New Deal were they will be in FULL control of our currency then the FED would be out of control to do what ever they want. The problem is the American people are watching them and Physical Gold, Silver and Crypto on blockchains are in there way.
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Post by: greensoup8 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:29 AM
Don't you find it fascinating  how the government has literally no say, on important economic projections that affect the population? THAT ALONE SHOULD TELL YOU WHO IS REALLY IN POWER!
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Post by: dondon98 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:31 AM
Brooks for U.S. President 2024
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Post by: pigg on Dec 20, 2021, 07:35 AM
In the past when inflation would rise the feds would raise interest rates. Why don't the feds raise interest rates? Could it be the feds don't want to pay more interest on 29trillion of debt? The feds have dug a hole they can't climb out of. Now the people are stuck paying higher prices.
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Post by: nargs on Dec 20, 2021, 07:36 AM
Thanks you American and Eropean to build China MONEY for Military, so China have STROOONG WEAPON  now for WAR.
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Post by: hannahbananna44 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:41 AM
Get Trump back
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Post by: SpartanTheGreat on Dec 20, 2021, 07:42 AM
If lumber and steel go up, how could you say housing prices are in a bubble but the raw meterials are supply and demand?
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Post by: befuddle on Dec 20, 2021, 07:47 AM
Joey is doing great
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Post by: windspeed36 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:48 AM
So that's one dangerous way to raise wages.... it'll be interesting to see how this plays out
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Post by: sharphido on Dec 20, 2021, 07:53 AM
Bitcoin is a hard asset, there is no bubble. Stock market is a bubble propped up by money printing
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Post by: Claudice2410 on Dec 20, 2021, 07:54 AM
Crypto is a bubble.  Almost 20,000 cryptocurrencies!
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Post by: Zomobrine on Dec 20, 2021, 07:59 AM
In Metaverse?
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Post by: matfoil on Dec 20, 2021, 08:00 AM
That zandi guy was predicting market fall in 2019
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Post by: beaufert on Dec 20, 2021, 08:05 AM
Well... stop printing money. That should work...  Also put it back on the gold standard... that would also work...
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Post by: FacikMenCZ on Dec 20, 2021, 08:06 AM
Mr. Mooney seems to be living in the Cuban Missile Crisis Era, why the focus on "rogue states" and the possible use of crypto in evading sanctions? America World Police has caused more misery in Cuba than anything its government could do internally. This hearing is about innovation Mooney, get over 1980s policy.
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Post by: etruscan on Dec 20, 2021, 08:10 AM
Nature may abhour a vaccum, but the human world loves bubbles.
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Post by: kallumthecow on Dec 20, 2021, 08:12 AM
They are missing the most important piece of this bubble story : massive money supply increases.
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Post by: PieGuy1 on Dec 20, 2021, 08:16 AM
booster shots are inflationary. Who's paying for tests and vaccines? Your purchasing power. When government interferes with the working class and businesses through more and more regulation, does that increase output or decrease output? It decreases output causing higher prices for goods and services. Bill Gates' carbon tax to fund his chalk marks in the sky. Is that carbon tax inflationary or deflationary? It's inflationary. There is zero benefit to the middle class by flying airplanes spraying dust into the atmosphere. The entire process is inflationary.
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Post by: katisihQ on Dec 20, 2021, 08:18 AM
USA USA USA
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Post by: autobiography on Dec 20, 2021, 08:22 AM
Brian Brooks must be protected at any fee
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Post by: ekspert on Dec 20, 2021, 08:23 AM
Maxine Waters lowered the hearings IQ average by 20 points.
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Post by: elefantmedia on Dec 20, 2021, 08:28 AM
Monetary inflation is just the government helping the rich at the expense of the poor.
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Post by: kavouka on Dec 20, 2021, 08:29 AM
Something is going on in the world  and dealing with the sells of idea
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Post by: fourwheeler on Dec 20, 2021, 08:34 AM
Listening Ms Velasquez is painful
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Post by: balefrost on Dec 20, 2021, 08:35 AM
We are all screwed for years to come no matter how much you own. We are all in debt for a long time. Expect your taxes and rents to stay up ⬆️ for years while average wage struggle to keep up. Way to go Powell!!! Poor get poorer and the gap between the rich and poor to widen and poverty to get worse This will be worse than 2008.. god bless us all
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Post by: chervonets on Dec 20, 2021, 08:40 AM
BITCOIN
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Post by: yay111 on Dec 20, 2021, 08:41 AM
Just stop devaluing money by creating a crapload of it. Easy to stop it.
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Post by: SkinnyBill on Dec 20, 2021, 08:46 AM
TR
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Post by: mieke on Dec 20, 2021, 08:47 AM
Quantitative easing is the cause of inflation.....it pumps mony in the system..th more dollars in circulation the lower the value or the higher the inflation.....i think its clear that quantitative easing should be iligal.....solving a debt crisis bye allowing more debt is not a solution......stop the cocaine do what you should have done a long time a go raise interest rates back to 10 to 15%....in doing so you make housing affordable again..... capatalisme needs detoxing from time to time the longer you postpone the harder the redraw will be.......a normel household should not be forced into shares for there savings to gain some return......housing is not for speculation but to live in and shares stocks are only for seasoned investors...
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Post by: Rogastail on Dec 20, 2021, 08:52 AM
Remember when you guys said this was a problem?
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Post by: ROJO2017 on Dec 20, 2021, 08:53 AM
Coinbase needs a brick and mortar for customer service.
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Post by: Sorcerer_Titus on Dec 20, 2021, 08:58 AM
Did you know those 3 FEDERAL BANKS are only open to high net worth and INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS for crypto.yah inclusion my a@@
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Post by: MasterBeef360 on Dec 20, 2021, 08:59 AM
 under-employment, it became very clear that a young man's best opportunities were in military service.I graduated high-school in 1973.  I took very literally the advise given Dustin Hoffman in the movie 'The Graduate'... PLASTICS!  Executive wage-and-price controls were in effect under the Nixon-Ford Administrations, then shortly after the Carter Administration very morally granted our old friend Shah Reza Pallavi a visa for treatment of terminal cancer -  the OPEC embargoed oil exports to the United States, which essentially hobbled our domestic plastics industry.  After two years of unemployment
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Post by: nfd on Dec 20, 2021, 09:04 AM
Did anyone watch the entire ?
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Post by: snickars on Dec 20, 2021, 09:05 AM
Sherman is a vampire!!! A globalist gnome!!!
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Post by: kacperoxs on Dec 20, 2021, 09:10 AM
NO!  How other than stop printing money and wasting money on unproductive military expenditures?
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Post by: partyhorse on Dec 20, 2021, 09:11 AM
my boyyyyyy bankman frieddd
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Post by: borlan on Dec 20, 2021, 09:16 AM
The answer is YES. The United States once set double digit interest rates and inflation dropped. It also caused recession.
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Post by: Strawberry on Dec 20, 2021, 09:17 AM
gamestop wasn't a bubble, if it was a bubble, it wouldn't stabilize at still 1000% over what it was originally at after one year
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Post by: arctic_mirage on Dec 20, 2021, 09:22 AM
Bitcoin is not a bubble. Get the flip outta here...
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Post by: condom on Dec 20, 2021, 09:23 AM
Future of the job market is going to require nothing less of a graduate degree? Plunge the future generations into more debt? Especially with student loans..GTFO. Ill just be a plumber and charge $80 an hour as a start.
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Post by: holy_miner on Dec 20, 2021, 09:28 AM
US: Bring jobs back to America! Also US: ""No one wants to pay higher prices for anything" 0:23
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Post by: creatinine on Dec 20, 2021, 09:29 AM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OF MONEY OR A BANK CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. Get it through your thick skulls.
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Post by: brenda002 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:33 AM
If you already own multiple homes and shares why wouldnt you want inflation to stop? Doesnt affect me
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Post by: chaomonster on Dec 20, 2021, 09:35 AM
America don't solve any problems.
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Post by: blandford10 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:39 AM
Few decent and many totally miserable (AOC, Waters, Sherman to name some) politicians vs really top people from crypto world (SBF and Brooks were the best but everyone there was pretty good).
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Post by: Bc1151 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:41 AM
Starts at 6:00
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Post by: KidGaming on Dec 20, 2021, 09:45 AM
Fire job Biden
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Post by: Dervius on Dec 20, 2021, 09:47 AM
SURE IT CAN HOUSE VALUES IN Detroit HAVE DROPPED,  LIKE IN NUMVERSOUS usa usa usa cities.
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Post by: Tirreno on Dec 20, 2021, 09:51 AM
My guess... Big pharma
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Post by: Triggerfish2002 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:53 AM
Tesla is not in a bubble. IMO it's undervalued but  has an agenda against Tesla since they're paid by the ICE industry.
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Post by: Jokermon403 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:57 AM
I'm so glad, i listened to my financial advisor Kyle Thomas Blodgett ..i would have been in massive loss right now due to the crash ..i would highly recommend her ..it would be really devastating losing all your trading investment ..a simple online search will tell you how good she is .
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Post by: conner12000 on Dec 20, 2021, 09:59 AM
Why do we allow a 3rd party (CFTC) to manipulate crypto prices!!?? Do you know why crypto was invented? Here's a brief understanding if you don't know__It was launched in 2009 by someone (or a group of people) that goes by the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. It was created in the wake of the 2008 global financial crisis as a way for people to control their money themselves, without having to rely on companies, banks, or governments and their fees and controls-NOW ITS TAXED!
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Post by: berhemoth on Dec 20, 2021, 10:03 AM
CRYPTO is the future.SILVERAs long as the federal reserve exists and their tight relation with megabanks inflation will never stop. This system needs to be scrapped and thrown away. GOLD
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Post by: menadione on Dec 20, 2021, 10:05 AM
Coinbase needs a brick and mortar for customer service.
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Post by: Cherry_Angel on Dec 20, 2021, 10:09 AM
Yes, abolish the Fed
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Post by: thelicoriceman on Dec 20, 2021, 10:11 AM
You can stop the inflation by doimg a world order no one will increase price any kind of product on the market as in all no one can tell fhey short there profit imagine if u didnt put attention on this problem on the year 2300 the one brand new car is worth 1million the years come by the price of all producr will be increasing non stop the value of the money will become worthless.all the business are takimg all there looses on there customer look the slow moving items example they can get 5$ they will sell it for 40$ to cover there ass for the slow days and for no sales on this particular day they all took from the customer why they didnt find ways on thete own way or you can put price what ever u want it if they put law on pricing like 10% of the total value of there product if 50$ it will become 60$ on any kind of product from food to vehicle all the same percentage example on vehicle 12k the 10:% is 1,200 thats the dealership they will get
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Post by: ess on Dec 20, 2021, 10:15 AM
No. The US governemnt is in no place to afford any interest rate right now. The only way is for other countries to hyper inflate before us or eliminate all high risk junk bonds
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Post by: jakephilipak on Dec 20, 2021, 10:17 AM
Joe Biden=INFLATION
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Post by: MineQusim on Dec 20, 2021, 10:21 AM
Brook was badass wow
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Post by: SAGAM3R on Dec 20, 2021, 10:23 AM
Seems like the elephants are bulls, and the donkeys are bears or perhaps just donkeys. Not surprised, just a little disappointed in my fellow ass-holes in congress.
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Post by: naara on Dec 20, 2021, 10:27 AM
all tech people are cons and speculators - making money out of nothing, out of air
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Post by: BSDH317 on Dec 20, 2021, 10:29 AM
Hexo guarantees full patched membership and cartels money laundering services. Do the homework.true
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Post by: intussusception on Dec 20, 2021, 10:32 AM
The economy is in transition from a 20th century to a 21st century economy. They are wanting to use 19th century tools to try and fix it
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Post by: Spartoc on Dec 20, 2021, 10:35 AM
why is waters running this? i want someone capable please.
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Post by: mess on Dec 20, 2021, 10:38 AM
Houses have double in price in two years practically. Thats hyper-inflation. Plus how is housing only 31% of CPI when it accounts for more than half our paycheck.
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Post by: sendefehler on Dec 20, 2021, 10:41 AM
The only one hurting is them because they can't buy cryptocurrency legally they are being left behind. Cyptocurrency is taking market share from traditional investments like gold and even a good share of stocks. Microstrategy just buying bitcoin at 30k not only made them billions but grew there companies market cap by quadruple .
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Post by: thegeemaster on Dec 20, 2021, 10:44 AM
Sure raise the interest rate to 20%
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Post by: lithiasis on Dec 20, 2021, 10:46 AM
If you believe in fairy tales...
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Post by: macgunner on Dec 20, 2021, 10:50 AM
Get Trump back
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Post by: Fasry on Dec 20, 2021, 10:52 AM
Inflation is theft to my savings account.  I wish there was something I could buy that could hedge against inflation. "Bitcoin" Absolutely no one can take away my cryptocurrency or stop my transactions.  long live the blockchain.
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Post by: YofaLegend on Dec 20, 2021, 10:57 AM
Friday CPI report is going to be a bloodbath for the market
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Post by: Casmos on Dec 20, 2021, 10:58 AM
Nice ! I was able to build a big income stream during the covid-19 pandemic investing with a professional broker, Mrs Elizabeth Wesley.
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Post by: butterquake101 on Dec 20, 2021, 11:02 AM
Friday CPI report is going to be a bloodbath for the market
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Post by: midori on Dec 20, 2021, 11:04 AM
Post pandemic  we left ??? Let me ask Omnicron
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Post by: thecogold on Dec 20, 2021, 11:08 AM
What a terrible system we live in, we want some people to be unemployed and potentially homeless as well as prices to rise a certain amount! What a sinister thing to do to a population
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Post by: granado on Dec 20, 2021, 11:10 AM
Tax and spend Democrats, Cut tax and spend RepublicansBoth parties are the same.
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Post by: Sebrasjo on Dec 20, 2021, 11:14 AM
When will these bubble(s) pop? any guess folks?
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Post by: songja on Dec 20, 2021, 11:16 AM
What is your agenda pushing TSLA into meme stocks? They seem to be undervalued based on both current cash flows, growth and forward earnings. There are so many unprofitable overvalued meme stocks like LCID, RIVN etc. but all you know is TSLA? Lame lazy misleading journalism!
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Post by: LimbisX on Dec 20, 2021, 11:20 AM
A WORD OF ADVICE TO ALL THESE CONGRESS MAN AND WOMAN OWN AT LEAST 1 BITCOIN!
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Post by: iconoclast on Dec 20, 2021, 11:22 AM
Interesting that few commentators talk about the recent record growth in the money supply. For these folks its as if the price level is somehow independent of the quantity of money.
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Post by: jdogjones55555 on Dec 20, 2021, 11:26 AM
Michael Barry  is a clown lol
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Post by: mehehee on Dec 20, 2021, 11:28 AM
Nope.
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Post by: nyasaland on Dec 20, 2021, 11:32 AM
Re-elect Paul Volcker
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Post by: L0stWadd1es on Dec 20, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Post by: columbus on Dec 20, 2021, 11:38 AM
What changed in 3 days. Now your saying the economy is great. Lmfao  State ran media.... its funny how after meeting with bidens white house and they told you to stop talking negative about the economy.  We know the Economy is crashing. How do we know? We see it in everyday life. Unlike you guys we actually live in the real world trying to get by.  While the rich can sit back.
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Post by: nivangerow on Dec 20, 2021, 11:40 AM
7:56 Ah hints of the psychopathic economic view that unemployment is desired. That it's a policy tool to control inflation.
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Post by: phur on Dec 20, 2021, 11:44 AM
How a globalist thinks: now all you poor folks live in the city we have control over you. It's not like an ordinary middle class family can afford to buy enough land and equipment about $1 million worth and continue as normal  without the Globalist economy. After $1million on equipment you need a million or 2 for land then you get to pay the government your 'licence to work' then you can plant and irrigate your own farm. My rural property increased in value by 10 fold in 10 years.
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Post by: krystalkrystalle on Dec 20, 2021, 11:46 AM
President's pay goes DOWN in the US.  AI is a viable, looming threat and this is not a conspiracy theory.  It's already doing stock trades faster than any human has a chance to.14:47 - The trades are such a field that is being neglected.  1 year and an apprenticeship can get you a $100k job.  I am not kidding and have met some earning more than that annually.  The day a computer is smarter than a CEO in predicting any consumer market is the day the modern CEO
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Post by: Escalom on Dec 20, 2021, 11:50 AM
Inflation is running out of control - sad to say
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Post by: boyradd777 on Dec 20, 2021, 11:52 AM
Nature may abhour a vaccum, but the human world loves bubbles.
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Post by: nosrednaw on Dec 20, 2021, 11:56 AM
No, they cant
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Post by: kitty_kitty_love on Dec 20, 2021, 11:58 AM
In the past when inflation would rise the feds would raise interest rates. Why don't the feds raise interest rates? Could it be the feds don't want to pay more interest on 29trillion of debt? The feds have dug a hole they can't climb out of. Now the people are stuck paying higher prices.
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Post by: shrewd on Dec 20, 2021, 12:01 PM
No, no they cant
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Post by: rennschnecke99 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:04 PM
Its not inflation. Its price gouging.
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Post by: shadowless on Dec 20, 2021, 12:07 PM
Thanks sleepy creepy!
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Post by: reviteer on Dec 20, 2021, 12:10 PM
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Post by: PW1336 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:13 PM
Government caused this
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Post by: chomp231_jr on Dec 20, 2021, 12:15 PM
Cathy Wood sez Value will be slammed in 2022  Over supply
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Post by: L1T3 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:19 PM
However, there are drastic up and down turns and movements in the crypto market roughly every 4 years, the up and down turns, bull and bear market are broken into halves more or less and are associated with the Bitcoin halving cycle. So it is actually somewhat very predicable. We even have rough ideas of where it can likely go within a time. If X,Y,Z happens. There is also movement based on news and adoption associated with main stream companies and industries, along with entire cities adopting or working with, here in the U.S and small national countries around the world...
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Post by: itz_adam_x on Dec 20, 2021, 12:21 PM
The only thing that'll stop inflation is hyperinflation.
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Post by: hman on Dec 20, 2021, 12:25 PM
How can inflation exist in a zero interest climate where wages are stagnant? Sorry, being Australian I don't get that (Australia is big but our economy is medium sized).  It's different here. We have all the above but we are having a stupidly wild housing market - everywhere.  People are greedy & stupid, rates will rise. When the US ups it's interest rates, a lot of Australians will learn that a $1,000,000 loan on a $120,000 income is not wise.
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Post by: boy392 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:27 PM
Certainly not Bitcoin. Try house prices.
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Post by: mrmagic101 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:31 PM
Starts at 6:00
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: welby on Dec 20, 2021, 12:33 PM
Easy take $17t in wealth tax and tax evasion, and pay back fed. This removes $17t from economy and from those who either need it nor allocate it well.
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Post by: Swampydiamonds on Dec 20, 2021, 12:37 PM
Nope.
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Post by: Zalfer on Dec 20, 2021, 12:40 PM
Tesla is not in a bubble. IMO it's undervalued but  has an agenda against Tesla since they're paid by the ICE industry.
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Post by: avengert on Dec 20, 2021, 12:43 PM
stupid take, the oil price has dropped, it should hult it a little. we can take a page from athens, just produce too much oil
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: Mister808 on Dec 20, 2021, 12:46 PM
yr50 should lvl out b4 we make another run. Housing is also related to money printing, if you put 50% more money in the hands of the public obviously house prices will adjust to that... this ones just not in a bubble at all, will likily keep rising 5-10%so if gme went from 2 bucks to over 300 i have no problem with a 50% correction, it is in fact not in a bubble as its shorted 120% again (yes its not worth the current price but the shorts will have to cover)... id rather make a 200% gain and watch it lose 50% than a 30% gain on the year. btc movement is directly related to the dilution of currencies globally, it's been overleveraged by longs and the recent correction was those folks getting liquidated, once its closer to 50
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Post by: aimeeaimil on Dec 20, 2021, 12:49 PM
Bitcoin fixes this.
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Post by: Thepigwarlord on Dec 20, 2021, 12:52 PM
All according to plan cit.
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Post by: Danky on Dec 20, 2021, 12:55 PM
Does anyone know what are the 3 crypto companies shes talking about in 9:13? She said they got approved by the OCC
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Post by: gallfly on Dec 20, 2021, 12:57 PM
The next bubble to pop is China
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Post by: thirst on Dec 20, 2021, 01:01 PM
So you need to buy Bitcoin . Bitcoin is the future
Title: Re: BBC Bitcoin mining report used in crypto-scam
Post by: gilpin on Dec 20, 2021, 01:03 PM
did they talk about governance tokens at all?
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Post by: MrSkeleton97 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:07 PM
Dislike
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Post by: Grumpo on Dec 20, 2021, 01:09 PM
Also, i cant wait until congress finds out that if you type the wrong address when transferring wallets, you lose all your money. Lol. Clearly will be forced to be fixed.
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Post by: honeyminer7 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:13 PM
They're talking about run-of-the-mill inflation driven by wage-price spirals, and saying that's how you get an inflationary spiral. In my mind, that's not the only way. We have a fiat currency and it's value is really derived from people's faith in it's value. You can print money and encourage borrowing etc, but much like stock market bubbles, there is a tipping point in there when all the feedbacks turn from negative to positive.  Normally, you hold money, it holds it's value, there's no real push to gain or spend it. If you think inflation is going to increase, it now becomes a hot potato that you want to spend as soon as you get it. You do this by buying useful assets like houses, land, food, things you need. When everyone does this it drives up the price, which would normally dampen demand, but if the expectation that money will continue losing value and the price will only increase, then the price doesn't matter anymore. Sellers can ask arbitrarily high prices. But who's going to sell into this and accept that money? Thus supply goes down at the same time demand goes up, further exacerbating the situation.  The government has been pumping new money into the economy to try and stimulate it, yet velocity stays low. Who needs to spend all that money under normal circumstances? But what happens when it all starts losing value? All that "cold" money suddenly turns hot, and the *effective* money supply suddenly increases. Meanwhile, everyone is also incentivized to borrow as much as possible to "short" the currency, further increasing the supply. But who wants to lend into this? The credit market slows, and the government steps in as "lender of last resort" again....using printed money.  Meanwhile, the massive amounts of money tied up in the stock market suddenly need a new home. I mean, who wants to hold a stock when all you can get out of it is increasingly worthless money. You paper gains are impressive, but it's only a reflection of the fact your asset is losing value, because the only value it has is denominated in dollars (rather than any kind of tangible use).  I mean it goes on and on. Wage-price spirals may be a part of 'normal' inflation but they don't really play into hyperinflation.
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Post by: Holly_Jolly on Dec 20, 2021, 01:15 PM
Getting through Mr. Shermans statement without dying of laughter is a very respectable feat.
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Post by: Jammydodger18802 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:19 PM
As the old saying goes :     "Keep printing and spending. Things will turn out ok."                                                          _Brandon_
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Post by: Cdudka on Dec 20, 2021, 01:21 PM
Silver!
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Post by: thegatemager on Dec 20, 2021, 01:24 PM
$FTM $HEC $RNDR, check them
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Post by: RapistTurtle on Dec 20, 2021, 01:27 PM
 bubble
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Post by: cooltj95 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:30 PM
I see Bitcoin. I click on it. I know why MSNBC put that Bitcoin.
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Post by: shiplord_Hubert on Dec 20, 2021, 01:33 PM
Timestamps? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by: wave on Dec 20, 2021, 01:36 PM
Anyone up for revolution? Serious inquiries only
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Post by: kafarek007 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:39 PM
Silver!
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Post by: bosom on Dec 20, 2021, 01:44 PM
So they basically only care about whether crypto challenges existing systems? How STUPID
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Post by: stcyr on Dec 20, 2021, 01:46 PM
The world is the way it is because money pulled it in that direction. When the money moves the power moves.
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Post by: joshmudie on Dec 20, 2021, 01:50 PM
NO! the USA is simply insustainable the cost to live as we do is too much, borrowing to pay debts has never help anyone in debt.
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Post by: megaleonn on Dec 20, 2021, 01:52 PM
Just to clarify Tesla margin selling to hertz will not be low margin. There is no discount at all.
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Post by: muffin_man_122 on Dec 20, 2021, 01:56 PM
Answer: No. Go buy gold and BTC.
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Post by: debra on Dec 20, 2021, 01:58 PM
 decoupling from china; how ta hack not cause inflation. increase wage 1.5XKickout immigrant
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Post by: c1aws99gh on Dec 20, 2021, 02:02 PM
We all know why gas prices are up so why do they blame it on inflation?
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Post by: elviaelvie on Dec 20, 2021, 02:04 PM
Кучку мошенников нужно было прям в зале арестовать!
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Post by: kinkajou on Dec 20, 2021, 02:09 PM
Our raises already got sucked away.. We're tired of getting screwed so we decided NOT to buy much at all just the basics screw Chinia and the GREEDY corporations who make record profits and screw the employees
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Post by: hysabcz on Dec 20, 2021, 02:11 PM
Glad people are starting to agree with Austrian economist
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Post by: dunfermline on Dec 20, 2021, 02:15 PM
Stop printing money like crazy
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Post by: cosworth688 on Dec 20, 2021, 02:17 PM
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